I'm still thinking of buying the R5 mark II. Should I or should I wait? I BOUGHT IT!!!

[pcs]

I never watch the shutter count on the battery I watch the battery indicator and when it gets down to 2 bars I get ready to change it but often wait for it to flash red.

Renting is about $250 for the week, unlimited shots, would rent with the CF card. going to wait until it is a bit warmer, going to be -15C this weekend.

What size are the Craw files on the R5ii? Where I rarely shot video and the R6iii might not come out until much later this year I AM tempted to get the R5ii, people are "supposing" so much for the R6iii but not official specs yet. I tend to think that while it will be close to the R5ii the R6iii will still be a step down, it certainly isn't going to better or even even with it. If I were to buy the R6iii it is going to cost about $3,000 while the R5ii would be about $5,500 so 2,500 more
I may drive down to the camera store in Providence RI next week to check it out and see how it feels in my hand.\

How is the low light performance in the R5ii vs the R6ii ?

Between 20-30 Mb.

 

[pcs]

I had no idea what Loupedeck was so I looked it up. Interesting device. I can imagine it's faster than having to move a mouse to a slider and then moving it in Lightroom. And as it's very tactile no doubt muscle memory does it's thing so that after a while you don't need to look at your hands much. Pretty cool.

I start by opening the files in DPP. It's a great app, just unusable. Exporting a tiff takes forever, even on my super fast system. But the Quick Check mode is great. I can go through files quick, zoom in and out with one click. Reject files and then in one swoop delete them.

The remaining files I import into Lightroom where I do a second round of culling. I choose the files I like best. The others get binned. From the files I like best I choose a few to process. I run these through DXO but other than that I don't do much in Lightroom. Just basic tweaks like cropping, exposure correction, WB correction maybe, if needed. But that's pretty much it. I do most all my editing in Photoshop and when finished I export the file back into Lightroom as a jpeg.

I just wish I could get away from Adobe. But other applications I tried just didn't do it for me.

I use a mix of yours and Jan's method.
-Plug in my camera, EOS utility starts automatically and renames my photos, placed in folder 'raw to be processed'.
-DPP opens automatically after downloading, select all, quick check and mark the keepers, everything else to the bin.
-Run keepers through DxO PR(if many do something else but with my current laptop it's just under 7 seconds a file, earlier laptops 45 sec and 2 min...)
-Import in C1Pro, assign keywords, crop, exposure/highlights etc., export (one version 1600px for web, one fullres)

That's it.

 

[Levina de Ruijter]

I never watch the shutter count on the battery I watch the battery indicator and when it gets down to 2 bars I get ready to change it but often wait for it to flash red.

Renting is about $250 for the week, unlimited shots, would rent with the CF card. going to wait until it is a bit warmer, going to be -15C this weekend.

At least you're getting your money's worth. When you actually buy a camera to try it out, you really can't give it a good workout.

What size are the Craw files on the R5ii?

Depending on ISO speed my craw files are between 20MB and 34MB.

Where I rarely shot video and the R6iii might not come out until much later this year I AM tempted to get the R5ii, people are "supposing" so much for the R6iii but not official specs yet. I tend to think that while it will be close to the R5ii the R6iii will still be a step down, it certainly isn't going to better or even even with it. If I were to buy the R6iii it is going to cost about $3,000 while the R5ii would be about $5,500 so 2,500 more
I may drive down to the camera store in Providence RI next week to check it out and see how it feels in my hand.\

How is the low light performance in the R5ii vs the R6ii ?

Oh gosh, I'm bad at these kinds of comparisons. And I don't really know if you can compare them: 24mpx vs 45mpx. The R5m2 has more noise at higher ISO speeds but that noise only becomes visible when you start to really zoom in. And even then it cleans up nicely with DXO Pure Raw. I was afraid of the files being similar to those of the R7. They aren't.

Having said that, I always try to keep my ISO as low as I can. I don't think I've ever shot over 4000 ISO. I have a few examples of that from the R5m2. Here's a screenshot of a raw file in DPP. I think it does apply a bit of noise reduction? This is a 100% crop, ie one pixel in the pic is one pixel on my screen. The bird wasn't too close.

But at normal viewing size it looks like this. It's unprocessed. After processing it would look fine, even without noise reduction.

 

[Levina de Ruijter]

I use a mix of yours and Jan's method.
-Plug in my camera, EOS utility starts automatically and renames my photos, placed in folder 'raw to be processed'.
-DPP opens automatically after downloading, select all, quick check and mark the keepers, everything else to the bin.
-Run keepers through DxO PR(if many do something else but with my current laptop it's just under 7 seconds a file, earlier laptops 45 sec and 2 min...)
-Import in C1Pro, assign keywords, crop, exposure/highlights etc., export (one version 1600px for web, one fullres)

That's it.

Patrick how do you mark the files in DPP? Because you can't open them from within DPP in DXO PR? Or can you?

 

[pcs]

Sorry, left out a step. Every keeper gets a 1 star rating, when finished edit, rating, select 1 star-> cut/paste to folder(every month has a folder). Open PR, select from folder etc.

Always in batches, I process every keeper, if I don't want to process it's not a keeper

 

[Levina de Ruijter]

Sorry, left out a step. Every keeper gets a 1 star rating, when finished edit, rating, select 1 star-> cut/paste to folder(every month has a folder). Open PR, select from folder etc.

You mean "edit" as in culling, rating, right?

I never considered to copy/paste images from DPP, but it makes sense because the files are not in a closed catalog like in Lightroom. I'm going to try this workflow. The thing is that DPP is much nicer than Lightroom, handles the files better and why not, it's Canon! It's just so sluggish when editing.

Always in batches, I process every keeper, if I don't want to process it's not a keeper

Really? That is so efficient. I keep too much because yeah, I'm not going to process this shot but it's so nice, a shame to bin it. Ridiculous!
I do from time to time go through the catalogue and delete images from older shoots. And a lot too. But somehow I find it difficult to do right after a shoot.

 

[Jeff WX1USN]

Oh gosh, I'm bad at these kinds of comparisons. And I don't really know if you can compare them: 24mpx vs 45mpx. The R5m2 has more noise at higher ISO speeds but that noise only becomes visible when you start to really zoom in. And even then it cleans up nicely with DXO Pure Raw. I was afraid of the files being similar to those of the R7. They aren't.

Having said that, I always try to keep my ISO as low as I can. I don't think I've ever shot over 4000 ISO. I have a few examples of that from the R5m2. Here's a screenshot of a raw file in DPP. I think it does apply a bit of noise reduction? This is a 100% crop, ie one pixel in the pic is one pixel on my screen. The bird wasn't too close.

I often go to 16,000 or higher although mostly in the 3200-12500 range as I try to keep my shutter speed above 1/2000 when shooting birds in low light.
I have done tests, this test was at my desk in my den of my 4x5 cameras over my desk, ignore the chicken hawk in the ISO 40,000 picture as it is out of focus as I was interested in the Graphic lens. I pulled it from the camera and hit it with Topaz Labs AI Denoise (nothing severe).

R6ii ISO 16,000 after denoise - 2nd shot is at ISO 40,000

R6 mk II ISO 40,000

 

[Levina de Ruijter]

I often go to 16,000 or higher although mostly in the 3200-12500 range as I try to keep my shutter speed above 1/2000 when shooting birds in low light.
I have done tests, this test was at my desk in my den of my 4x5 cameras over my desk, ignore the chicken hawk in the ISO 40,000 picture as it is out of focus as I was interested in the Graphic lens. I pulled it from the camera and hit it with Topaz Labs AI Denoise (nothing severe).

R6ii ISO 16,000 after denoise - 2nd shot is at ISO 40,000

View attachment 6943

R6 mk II ISO 40,000

View attachment 6944

Those are ISO speeds I never use.

But, I have both cameras here so I could do test shots! I will do that later this afternoon and post the results tonight.

 

[pcs]

You mean "edit" as in culling, rating, right?

I never considered to copy/paste images from DPP, but it makes sense because the files are not in a closed catalog like in Lightroom. I'm going to try this workflow. The thing is that DPP is much nicer than Lightroom, handles the files better and why not, it's Canon! It's just so sluggish when editing.


Really? That is so efficient. I keep too much because yeah, I'm not going to process this shot but it's so nice, a shame to bin it. Ridiculous!
I do from time to time go through the catalogue and delete images from older shoots. And a lot too. But somehow I find it difficult to do right after a shoot.

Edit as one of the tabs in DPP; click tab edit, click subtab rating, click subtab 1 star.

 

[Levina de Ruijter]

Edit as one of the tabs in DPP; click tab edit, click subtab rating, click subtab 1 star.

Yep, I know that one. It's how I select all the rejects and batch delete them.

By the way, I shot pics with the new 100% charged battery in the camera. Downloaded them to my Mac. Shutter count was reset to zero. Seems it's not the battery.