Why I still use film

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Film is now the old technology, and digital has superseded it. Digital is just as capable of recording an image as film, is simpler (no developing of film before you can even start on making a print), and, once you already have the equipment, free (electricity costs for charging batteries and running computers aside). So, why do I use film?

The history of photography shows a steady progression - I won't quite say progress, as that would suggest continuous improvement. Daguerreotypes gave way to the negative/positive approach, wet plate gave place to dry plate (which instantly made photography simpler). Yet even today, all the old processes are still employed somewhere, and there has been a noticeable increase in books covering them. It's easier today to walk into a good photographic bookshop (are there any, outside of exhibition halls?) and walk out with books on how to use old processes than it was in pre-digital days. What's the appeal, apart from being different? If you're expecting me to answer that one, I can't. I've seen various answers on other forums - I like the process, I don't like sitting in front of a computer outside work, or even that it's a craft process - but none of those fit me.

In my case, partly it's prejudice. I've been developing my own films since the late 1950s, and got my first enlarger in 1961, so I've invested a fair amount of time on the "old ways". But I do also use a digital camera and there's at least one of my digital photographs on this forum. It's not that I refuse to use modern methods, nor is it that I prefer the analogue process. I'd much prefer NOT having to process film, scan it, spot it and only then get to the stage of making a print, a sequence that in digital becomes connect the card or camera and download. Much simpler, quicker, easier all round. My choice of film is down to more personal reasons - mainly my own weaknesses, but not entirely.

My biggest weakness is impatience. Yes, that should play to digital, but my impatience is that with an eye level camera, I don't take the time to properly examine the viewfinder for extraneous items, don't pay the same attention to the screen as I would to a ground glass, and see as an eyewitness, aware of the surroundings and not solely concentrating on what will actually appear on the photograph. I find that I pay much more attention to what will appear in the frame if the frame I'm viewing isn't at eye level and is larger. This means I'm using a medium format camera, and with a waist level finder for preference. It detaches me more from the surroundings, my peripheral vision doesn't include what's around the frame, and additionally, the image is laterally reversed.

This makes the view subtly different and a little more detached from the scene in front of me. The sudden change makes me look more closely, and composition improves. When it's a large format camera, admittedly eye level, the ground glass is larger again, and the focusing cloth completely isolates me. Plus the image is not only reversed left to right, but upside down. That really makes it easier to compose, and to really see what shouldn't be in the frame. Large format also gives other advantages in terms of camera movements - all lenses become tilt/shift lenses, I can adjust adjust object sizes in camera.

So far, nothing I've written actually makes film photography "better" than digital. I could just slow down and adapt. Or use a digital back (at the cost of a car). But I have another, very, very, illogical weakness. I prefer black and white to colour (and that would be another post) and with a film camera have no problems transposing the scene to black and white (I have one spectacular failure on that point though). With a digital camera, for some reason I can't make that leap. Nonsensical, isn't it? Could I learn? Probably. But the gain would still leave one final point, the real reason I stick with film.

The main, overriding reason is that the prints, even after scanning and being inkjet printed, still have a subtle difference from pure digital ones - a difference that gives prints I prefer. I can try and explain why I think this is so, but another time. If photography is about prints, rather than photos online, that is my ultimate fall back reason. Better prints, to my eyes. And that's ultimately what photography is about to me - the final image.
 
Yes. I'll make a post on ways of developing large format film, which to most people seems the most daunting. I suppose most people who have developed their own films have at least heard of Paterson tanks. The inventor of the self loading spiral that made them so successful was a vet, and he modeled the mechanism on a python's jaw - in it goes, out it doesn't! I mention those tanks because it is actually possible to develop all sizes of large format film up to 10x8 in one of them, so it's easy.

Black and white isn't too problematic with maintaining the temperature (68 degree F, 20 C) over the short times needed. Colour requires stricter temperature control, and, these days, higher temperatures, but a water bath (read "our washing up bowl") works fine. The most daunting was colour slides, which when I first developed them required a reversal exposure, and I used at university my then girl friend's (now wife) movie lights. Waving dripping spirals containing film in front of photoflood lamps is nerve wracking. For some years now that step has been done chemically.
 
Film is now the old technology, and digital has superseded it. Digital is just as capable of recording an image as film, is simpler (no developing of film before you can even start on making a print), and, once you already have the equipment, free (electricity costs for charging batteries and running computers aside). So, why do I use film?

The history of photography shows a steady progression - I won't quite say progress, as that would suggest continuous improvement. Daguerreotypes gave way to the negative/positive approach, wet plate gave place to dry plate (which instantly made photography simpler). Yet even today, all the old processes are still employed somewhere, and there has been a noticeable increase in books covering them. It's easier today to walk into a good photographic bookshop (are there any, outside of exhibition halls?) and walk out with books on how to use old processes than it was in pre-digital days. What's the appeal, apart from being different? If you're expecting me to answer that one, I can't. I've seen various answers on other forums - I like the process, I don't like sitting in front of a computer outside work, or even that it's a craft process - but none of those fit me.

In my case, partly it's prejudice. I've been developing my own films since the late 1950s, and got my first enlarger in 1961, so I've invested a fair amount of time on the "old ways". But I do also use a digital camera and there's at least one of my digital photographs on this forum. It's not that I refuse to use modern methods, nor is it that I prefer the analogue process. I'd much prefer NOT having to process film, scan it, spot it and only then get to the stage of making a print, a sequence that in digital becomes connect the card or camera and download. Much simpler, quicker, easier all round. My choice of film is down to more personal reasons - mainly my own weaknesses, but not entirely.

My biggest weakness is impatience. Yes, that should play to digital, but my impatience is that with an eye level camera, I don't take the time to properly examine the viewfinder for extraneous items, don't pay the same attention to the screen as I would to a ground glass, and see as an eyewitness, aware of the surroundings and not solely concentrating on what will actually appear on the photograph. I find that I pay much more attention to what will appear in the frame if the frame I'm viewing isn't at eye level and is larger. This means I'm using a medium format camera, and with a waist level finder for preference. It detaches me more from the surroundings, my peripheral vision doesn't include what's around the frame, and additionally, the image is laterally reversed.

This makes the view subtly different and a little more detached from the scene in front of me. The sudden change makes me look more closely, and composition improves. When it's a large format camera, admittedly eye level, the ground glass is larger again, and the focusing cloth completely isolates me. Plus the image is not only reversed left to right, but upside down. That really makes it easier to compose, and to really see what shouldn't be in the frame. Large format also gives other advantages in terms of camera movements - all lenses become tilt/shift lenses, I can adjust adjust object sizes in camera.

So far, nothing I've written actually makes film photography "better" than digital. I could just slow down and adapt. Or use a digital back (at the cost of a car). But I have another, very, very, illogical weakness. I prefer black and white to colour (and that would be another post) and with a film camera have no problems transposing the scene to black and white (I have one spectacular failure on that point though). With a digital camera, for some reason I can't make that leap. Nonsensical, isn't it? Could I learn? Probably. But the gain would still leave one final point, the real reason I stick with film.

The main, overriding reason is that the prints, even after scanning and being inkjet printed, still have a subtle difference from pure digital ones - a difference that gives prints I prefer. I can try and explain why I think this is so, but another time. If photography is about prints, rather than photos online, that is my ultimate fall back reason. Better prints, to my eyes. And that's ultimately what photography is about to me - the final image.
ive been shooting film on and off again for the last couple of years. i STILL have about 10 sheets of 4x5 black and white and 2 rolls of 120 and 2 rolls of 35mm (all bw) i need to develop. i just dont seem to have the ambition once i actually get home from work and COULD have them all done in an hour or so....

i have some color off being done at IndieLabs in Arkansas (or Alabama)... i ought to get the link for my scans soon...
 
I did some film photography back when I was a student. I did a course in dark room techniques, learned how to develop B&W film, how to use an enlarger, the whole process. In my tiny apartment I turned a small walk-in closet into a dark room. It was crammed but it worked. I borrowed an enlarger from a friend, a Durst. I wanted so badly to learn photography but the whole analogue process just didn't work for me. I borrowed a book about how photography works, from the same friend I borrowed the Durst from. It all made sense, but I couldn't put it into practice because once a film roll was full and developed I no longer knew the settings with which I took the shots. I tried making notes. Didn't work either because I'd forget once or twice and I ended up not knowing which settings were a match with which photo. I gave it up. From then on I only took snapshots of family events and I would take an occasional shot during summer holidays, but that was it.

Then digital cameras came along. And in August 2008 I bought a Canon Powershot SX100. In December I bought the Canon 40D. Digital photography was made for people like me. Having the metadata embedded in the files was a game changer for me.
 
Strangely perhaps, I've never bothered about settings; I've never taken notes and I noticed yesterday for the first time what the shutter speed was for one of the digital photos I posted. I never look at exif data. When I first started, my "light meter" was the comprehensive set of tables in the British Journal Almanac. Once I'd got to the correct section for my latitude, moved down to the date, then looked at the time, all I had to do then was navigate (and guess) the cloud conditions. Like the small sheet that used to be in film packets giving exposure times for "open shade", "cloudy bright" and such.

I suffered greatly from not realising how sensitive films really were though, and grossly overexposed. To the extent that I almost used as much Farmer's reducer as developer! "Farmer's reducer" if you haven't come across it isn't a slimming aid for corpulent agricultural workers; it's a chemical named after Howard Farmer that removes silver from negatives so that they are less dense and can be printed.

Getting a meter helped. I then found that for landscapes, the reading depended dramatically on the angle I was holding the meter at. Which lead to loss of confidence in it. I then read a magazine columnist who said that his method was to put the palm of his hand in the same light as the subject, take a reading and open up one stop. From then on, that was the method I used - and still do, It works for me every time. And I still don't know what settings I use - I take the reading, see what shutter speed corresponds to f/16 and set that. No notes, no regrets.
 
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I take the reading, see what shutter speed corresponds to f/16 and set that. No notes, no regrets.

in that case you could almost certainly use the sunny 16 rule. of course it then would require you to go back and remember the 'open clouds' 'sunny' 'overcast' and what not to determine how much light there actually is...
 
Sounds like a lot of effort to remember :) . Actually, in practice although I always take a reading, I estimate the exposure first, and I'm rarely more than half a stop out from the meter. I think this comes from using a separate meter and having to transfer the settings - you can't not notice what they are. One of the historical features in the UK is Hadrian's Wall; one year when photographing part of it, we parked in the car park at the base of the hill and then walked up some distance, me carrying my 5x4 (monorail in those days, 4.2 kilos), tripod and (almost) all the stuff I needed. The almost was the light meter - that was left in the car. I didn't bother going back, just estimated, and to be honest I couldn't tell from the negatives that anything unusual had happened.
 
When I bought the camera, a Ricoh (I still have it) I didn't know anything about photography and all the theory meant nothing in practice. It just didn't click. And I did do this course where they taught us how it worked and I still have a series of photos of the same object with different exposures and different depths of field but it still never clicked. As soon as I was shooting something all the things I had learned went out the window and I had no idea what I was doing.

Of course the camera had a meter and holiday snaps were okay but anything a bit more creative, nope. So I gave it up.
 
I think there's a thread here which I mean to find and post in about recommended settings for beginners. My opinion briefly is:
1. A modern camera on auto everything will get it nearly right probably 99% of the time
2. "Nearly right" will look "Perfect" if you're a beginner
3. The entire theoretical basis of practical photography can be explained in 30 minutes (or less)
4. Most photographers need to learn how to use their eyes, not their cameras

So, auto everything until you see a problem with it.

If you haven't got auto everything: scale focusing, stop down to f/8 and set the shutter according to a meter or info sheet for the conditions, If you're using negative film, exposure latitude will cover most mistakes. If you're using digital, you'll have auto available...
 
I think there's a thread here which I mean to find and post in about recommended settings for beginners. My opinion briefly is:
1. A modern camera on auto everything will get it nearly right probably 99% of the time
2. "Nearly right" will look "Perfect" if you're a beginner
3. The entire theoretical basis of practical photography can be explained in 30 minutes (or less)
4. Most photographers need to learn how to use their eyes, not their cameras

So, auto everything until you see a problem with it.

If you haven't got auto everything: scale focusing, stop down to f/8 and set the shutter according to a meter or info sheet for the conditions, If you're using negative film, exposure latitude will cover most mistakes. If you're using digital, you'll have auto available...
That's not taking into account the way my brain works! I need to know why something works and why something won't work. What's the difference? I need to know the particulars, the basics, the how and what of something. I can't do AUTO. I'm not an AUTO person. I wish I were but I'm not. It's all in or nothing for me. There's no in-between.

When I bought my 40D I set it to manual mode and it has never left it. I still think it's actually the best way to learn photography. Because if you set your camera to one of the semi-automated modes you won't learn the subtleties of light as the camera handles those for you. I mean, use those modes if you like because they are convenient but not because you don't know how to work in manual mode.

Of course everybody learns differently and for some budding photographers AV or TV or even AUTO may be the best choice. It just wasn't for me.
 
Fair points. I never had a built in meter until 1974, and that was the match needle OM1. The first auto exposure was in 1977 with the OM2. So, by that time I was used to a completely DIY approach.

I feel a lot in common with your opening remark. I also can't be content without knowing the "why" rather than the "how". That's what really moved me towards science rather than arts based courses; and had I known then what I know know, I would have realised that modern physics was a better fit for me than chemistry (where I specialised in theoretical rather than practical chemistry). Again, had I known then, I might have tried to see if I could somehow add in Greek at school, and taken Latin to A level and followed a classics course, but I don't regret the choice overall. Given how daunting and mathematical a lot of science books can look, I think being able to understand them as well as more language based ones (to say nothing of art) was a good long term trade off.

And of course, everyone learns differently, and there's no one size fits all.
 
And of course, everyone learns differently, and there's no one size fits all.
No indeed.

It's the same with languages for me. I have a talent for languages. I learn them easily. Give me a grammar, a basic vocabulary and a bit of time and I'm good to go. So if I went to Spain I would learn Spanish in two months and it would be more than enough to have decent conversations with the natives.

But here's the thing, I cannot learn a language by ear. No matter which language, I need to see it written first before I can master it.

I met a man once who spoke I don't know how many languages. And he learned them all by ear. You could drop him in a city in a country of which he didn't know the language and he would learn to speak that language like a native without ever learning how to write it. To me that is amazing. No matter how good I am with languages, I can't do that. I need to spell it down to the diacritical marks first.

So yes, we very much have different ways of learning.
 
Interesting. I need a grammar to get me started as well; give me a grammar and a vocabulary list, and then turn me loose on the text. I don't get on with the modern immersive method, if I've understood it correctly. And I firmly believe that until you can express yourself in another language, you don't really know it.

It's possible - and let's keep this to my native language for a moment - to listen to a conversation, not catch every word but still make out the main sense. Unless you miss a vital word that completely reverses the meaning, like not catching a "not". I found the same phenomenon in German a few years ago. We were at a dinner party, with the conversation going on around us in German. There were a lot of words I didn't know, and probably a few I did that I didn't catch, but I could understand what was being said. Did that mean I could speak German? Emphatically not. Which is really why I don't like language books that teach you how to read - Latin, Greek, German, it doesn't matter. Being able to read it doesn't mean that you actually understand it correctly. There's a book titled "You go me on the cookie" about learning German. The title is a literal translation of a German proverb, so with a dictionary easy to understand. Understand correctly - that's another matter. From what I've seen of modern Latin school exams in the UK, you can pass with a very superficial knowledge; I haven't seen any "modern" language exam papers to see if it's true there also.
 
heres an example of what i like about film

just got these scans back from Indie Film Lab where i have the process my color film (ive got a lot of black and white i just havent gotten the desire to develop yet)...

muted but still pretty vibrant. in part because the film is old(er), shot through a lens from (i THINK) 1958 and a bit underexposed (i could pop it through Lr and maybe improve them a bit)...

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